Interesting Fact: As Gun Control Clamps Down, Knife Crime Ramps Up

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Perpetually on the prowl for news and data of interest to knife and gun owners, I just ran across this hidden gem in the archives of the New York Times: “Knife Killings in City Increased 50 Percent in 2008.” Let’s take a minute and connect the dots, shall we?

In 2008, even as gun killings fell, the number of killings committed with knives or other “cutting instruments” rose 50 percent in New York City, the Police Department said: to 125 from 83. Some other large cities saw no such increase last year, and police officials and experts are at a loss to explain what is either a new trend or a spike.

Note the use of the word ‘spike’ in an article about knives. Heh heh. How a crusty NYT editor ever let a pun like that slip through the the Gray Lady’s humor/irony filter I’ll never know. Luckily we write our own style manual around here, where puns and sarcasm are actively encouraged and sometimes rewarded with (unexpired) coupons for free pizza. Just kidding.

But back to the problem of gun control and (eventually) knife control: The Times’  phalanx of hoplophobic scribes are hard-pressed to explain this inconvenient phenomenon, where clamping down on the means of armed self-defense leads to…even more need for armed self-defense.

In the midst of NY Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s all-out war on guns and the second amendment, firearm-related homicides decreased from 347 in 2007 to 292 in 2008: a decrease of 55 fatal shootings. At the same time, the number of fatal stabbings jumped from 83 to 125: an increase of 42 which nearly cancels out the decrease in gun deaths. As Gotham becomes a target-rich environment of helpless law-abiding citizens, the predators and psychos see that there’s no risk of being stopped (preferably dead) in their tracks by an armed citizen. The harder the authorities try to disarm the population, the more these criminals behave like hungry foxes in the world’s largest henhouse.

Where does all of this lead? When it comes to ‘weapon control,’ omnes viae Londinium ducant. NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said “We may have made it harder for killers to get their hands on guns,” said Mr. Browne. “Knives are still easily and legally acquired.”

For now. The NYT acknowledges that kitchen-knife prohibition is unlikely any time soon, because even Michael Bloomberg doesn’t have enough billions to conduct massive knife buy-back programs.

But amnesty for pocket knives or steak knives is not a reasonable option, said the Rev. Darryl Frazier of Majority Baptist Church in Jamaica, Queens, where the Police Department organized a gun buy-back program this year.

“The city would go bankrupt,” he said.

Don’t laugh too hard; it wouldn’t be the first time. Click here for the full NYT article.


  1. David says:

    As I pointed out elsewhere on this site, statistics regarding the use of “other” weapons are frequently skewed. If it is not explicitly stated that places of incarceration are left out then I assume they are in.

    I guess if NYC is going to ever be the utopia that the elitists think it is then I guess you have to add eternal vigilance to gun control, gentrification, & the 7th largest army in the world.

  2. dwb says:

    hmm. now that NY and MD have significantly tightened their laws, we should be on the lookout for increased crime (including knife crime) of all sorts.

  3. jwm says:

    I don’t believe the bad guys are having trouble getting guns. What may be happening in at least a few of the knife killings is the type of bad guy. If he’s a meth head and he’s got a gun he’ll sell it or trade it for meth.

    Knives are cheap and easy to get. Every house has a kitchen full of knives. A tweaker looking for a score to buy meth with knows how he looks and acts will bring the police down on him. If he’s carrying a gun he’s going straight to jail. But if he’s unarmed he knows to break into your house and go straight to the kitchen to arm himself.

    If you live in a house that has no guns you’ve just put yourself into a one on one with a hardened and chemically altered street criminal armed with your own high quality butcher knife. Good luck with that.

    1. uncommon_sense says:

      “If he’s a meth head and he’s got a gun he’ll sell it or trade it for meth.”

      Ooh. That is a really interesting hypothesis. I would love to be a fly on the wall and verify that.

      Another motivation for knife attacks: they are silent. Shooting someone in an alley draws a lot of unwanted attention. The yelling that might happen after a stabbing is just the usual background noise.

  4. the last Marine out says:

    It is a fact that in England and Australia, plus New Zealand that after their gun bans that crime sky rocketed and knives in crime went sky high, the most unsafe places in the world are found by how much firearms are strongly controlled or banned , so yes you will have more crime now under the bans , I was born in Maryland and saw first hand how the crime goes up , Was a time of almost no crime , Now I will never return to that HELL Hole…

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