Quote of the Day: Missing the Point edition

pointless knives

Blunt knives, like cleavers or a Japanese nakiri have a role in the kitchen, but so do knives with a point.

There are too many of you who sent this story to me to thank everyone individually, the proposal in question is a doozy. A retiring judge in England began his recent speech logically enough. He highlights the problems inherent knife prohibition.

From TelegraphUK:

He said laws designed to reduce the availability of weapons to young would-be offenders had had “almost no effect”, since the vast majority had merely taken knives from a cutlery drawer.

Ok.  I’m with you Judge. Dangerous items abound in the world. You can’t simply ban things, because alternatives will be procured. Proceed…

He said: “A few of the blades carried by youths are so called ‘Rambo knives’ or samurai swords. They though are a very small minority.

Hoplophobes obsession with cosmetic features borders on the absurd, whether it is scary black rifles or scary green knives. Keep going…your are on a role..

“The reason why these measures have little effect is that the vast majority of knives carried by youths are ordinary kitchen knives. Every kitchen contains lethal knives which are potential murder weapons.

As a result – said the judge – the most common knife a youth will take out is eight to ten inches, long and pointed, from his mother’s cutlery tray.

Yup. Granted, machete’s are actually being used quite frequently, but I understand what you are getting at…

He asked: “But why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?

“Butchers and fishmongers do, but how often, if at all, does a domestic chef use the point of an eight-inch or ten-inch knife? Rarely, if at all.”

Defining “need” is always a dicey proposition. Free people do not need an excuse to possess the tools of their choice. You are treading on thin ice Your Honor.

“Acknowledging that any blade could cause injury, the judge pointed out “slash wounds are rarely fatal.”

Ok…you are righting the ship. This is true.

So, he said: “I would urge all those with any role in relation to knives – manufacturers, shops, the police, local authorities, the government – to consider preventing the sale of long pointed knives, except in rare, defined, circumstances, and replacing such knives with rounded ends.

Wait. WHAT?

“It might even be that the police could organise a programme whereby the owners of kitchen knives, which have been properly and lawfully bought for culinary purposes, could be taken somewhere to be modified, with the points being ground down into rounded ends,” he said.


Like the not-ready-for-reality “smart-gun” technology, this is a suggestion that refuses to die. I tried looking for prior pieces on the topic, including at TTAK, because I am pretty sure I covered them before, but my search engine skills are being overwhelmed by this Judge’s mental diarrhea.

Just look inside a prison. Anything blunt can be filed to a point. Which is a point the judge clearly misses.


  1. Alan E Atwood says:

    No one will ever be safe until we have file control!

  2. Dan eastland says:

    And this kind of stupid is another reason I support knife rites

  3. Sam L. says:

    Next, they’re gonna ban SHINY knives! And BLACK knives! And not-SHINY knives. And FORKS!!!!!
    And sharpened SPOONS!!!!!1111!!!

    Not only that, but Kung Fu Chopsticks. The HORROR!! The horror…

  4. dph says:

    This is the reason I’m starting a new organization called “Black Knives Matter”. If it only saves one knife…….

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